Just posting this update for those without a Discord: today, the devs said in the server for this game that “An associate of mine is working on the production at the moment and will make an update later this year”. Vague, yes, but it’s something…
when i emailed them a year ago, they said something similar. i just hope it's closer to the truth this time. when i saw the discord update i got very cautiously hopeful again.
Honestly sounds like an excuse. I was wondering why they were active in the discord but not responding to people on this site. Priorities are messed up
I'm so sad this got abandoned I really really enjoyed the demo...why must such skilled developers scam instead of just finishing their games? They clearly have the talent, I don't get it.
I posted a comment here a year ago basically saying "don't get your hopes up for this one, the devs have a bad reputation" and unfortunately it looks like I was right. It's a shame for everyone who trusted you guys and spent money on this scam.
Y'all, best thing you can do right now is to remember the name "Parival" and avoid it like the plague next time they create a new project to steal money from unsuspecting people.
Let's just face it: the game is abandoned. They took the money and ran.
It's the middle of April 2022 and they still have the "RELEASING IN 2021" up. There are no updates literally anywhere, and they were silent for two years already.
I get it that they might've had some problems in real life, but the only excuse they have for POSTING LITERALLY NOTHING for two years is being dead. People pledged their money for this project, they were supporting the developers for years, and they don't even get an explanation on why the game they've been waiting for is not getting updates anymore.
The devs should be ashamed of themselves. They not only ran with the money, but betrayed the trust of people who loved and supported their project.
Let's be honest - that's not the first project that had problems with development, but it's the first time I had seen such negativity in the comments long before that. Talking about accountability, money, respect, high on self-righteousness - I don't think that helped either.
I'll have to disagree, people only ever raised concerns (and valid ones considering this will end up being a paid product one day) when the Devs started to delay updates and make basically no progress. Even now some people are trying to defend the Devs absence, which I'm very baffled by. Since all it would have taken to avoid this mess, is for them to log in, just say whether the project is discontinued or not and refund people if it is. There's no shame in discontinuing a game, but there is in not being responsible enough to let everyone know and return the money people have invested, in hopes of ever seeing the finished game.
Honestly, this is the first time I've seen such patience and kindness from fans in game development on something that is trying to basically sell itself for 4+ years and has kept making empty promises to its own customers. That's my own take, the very least.
i remember making a comment here almost a year ago defending the devs of this game, when i was much more hopeful about its release, but i'm not so hopeful anymore. i at least hope that if the game is truly abandoned, you'll tell us that much, and refund the backers who paid you money.
I've been looking for updates on this game for years and it is very disappointing to see that this game looks like it has died... I was so hyped and excited for this game.
Been waiting since day one of the announcement for this game...I know at some point Ya'll had some health stuff going on or something & covid hit everyone pretty hard, but an update would be very nice even just an update stating that the game is delayed indefinitely. You know so us fans aren't sitting on the edge of our seats wondering & hoping, waiting for an inevitable nothing. This game has so much potential it'd be a damn shame for it to go to waste. :)
I get it’s been two years; but I’ve seen smaller projects take 4+ years to launch. Cut them a little slack, it is their first game and they do have a life outside of developing one as well.. :]
Yes thats true, but atleast give us some updates on what is going on with the game, are they done with the whole script? CGs? Or any progress with the game some game developers gives a monthly update on what is happening regarding with the project. It's been 2 years since the last time they gave an update(and it's just for a side game) The users have the right to know since some of them already donated for the funding of the project. Some players think that this project is being cancelled since the developers are too quiet.
You do make a good point.. with people funding their project. But it is evident they have gone quiet -- you'd think people would stop funding. As for updates,, it would be nice to have a new update; but we can't know for sure if they have ongoing personal problems unless they tell us. It'd be nice to know, but we still can't blame them for not having the game yet.. and maybe they can't update yet: no one knows if they can or can't :) I do see your view on it, however. Unlike you, I haven't been waiting two years for an update.. I glanced at it in 2020 but didn't really feel motivated to download the demo ahah.
yeah i know the feeling. I always check the status of a game before downloading. If it's on development status and their last update was 2 yrs ago, i already think that they already dropped this project. And No i didnt wait for 2 yrs for this game. Lol i just saw this game and i thought it is interesting but then i saw their last update was from 2 yrs ago and it's still on development status, soooo i didnt download it. I really dont wanna play the game on demo with such a massive cliffhanger at the end. Lol.
It's their responsibility to update when they already did a crowdfunding but delay the release day, that the least the could do, yet they didn't give their fan any update.
I really hope you will be working on it again and it's not actually dead. It would be nice if you could just give us a little heads up. Just a little 'sorry I wasn't feeling well' or something would put a lot of minds at ease I think. You have always been very good with keeping everyone updated and this just feels weird. Hope you are ok and know a lot of people are still supporting you.
Sooo... it's been a HOT minute since the last update. Life happens, completely understandable. I wouldn't expect the devs to prioritize this game over their mental/physical health. What I'm saying isn't new here, but I really wish that at the very least, they would be more transparent about such issues. A simple "hey guys, really sorry about the lack of updates, but life stuff is going on and we are taking an indefinite hiatus" would suffice, especially when they have been financially backed thousands of dollars. I joined the Discord and the most recent update I saw was in October of this year, in which the dev basically said what I put in quotes above. While saying it on Discord is better than not at all, I think that they should definitely be saying that where backers and the general public who have been waiting for this for a long time to see. Not everyone has Discord or even knows there's a server for the game.
I take no issue with the game's development taking longer than expected. Hell, Omori took SIX YEARS, and it turned out absolutely brilliant. I do take issue with the devs not communicating this, which ironically enough, the creator of Omori was guilty of as well. Alongside that is the fact that Omori was Omocat's first game, and First Degree is also Parival's first game. Perhaps I'm being too optimistic here, but maybe it's a similar situation going on in which the development process for First Degree is going to take a very long time, but the final result is amazing. I left an extremely positive review of the demo 9 months ago, so I definitely have faith in Parival to keep that quality up for the rest of the game.
I wish them luck and success in their future endeavors and progress on this game, but do wish they would be more upfront about the whole process.
Edit: After rereading some comments, I noticed that some were angry about a side game being finished when the main isn't. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the devs made a side game just for the lulz. It could have been to bring some more money in because the main game was costing more than expected. Again, this is their FIRST GAME. They may have underestimated the time, effort, and money it takes to do something like this.
Hi! They posted another update just today, actually: “An associate of mine is working on the production at the moment and will make an update later this year.”
Incredibly vague and frustrating. Given the devs’ past history of promising a specific timeframe and then not delivering, I wouldn’t trust this statement. But we’ll see.
ah thanks for the info! but yeah i agree, it's just such a pity, bc this game had so much potential and quality and i feel like with the game they could have established themselves as a game dev team on itch.io like lunaris or wanderlust etc. but now so many ppl just lost their trust (for very understandable reasons). i haven't invested any money so for me it's more like just disappointment but i can understand how and why others who even backed them up, are angry and frustrated. I too think even if they didn't have the time or nerve or something like that, to write an update here, the very least they could have done is to just update this site and just write: Indefinite Hiatus. Because then we know and people who find the game right now will also know to not play the demo or at least to not get their hopes up.
I refuse to support these developers anymore, and glad I didnt support this. I hate to say it but devs are gonna have a harder and harder time getting their games backed if they have no history of successful releases because so many projects take money and dont deliver. Between this, AMAP, and a few others, these guys just refuse to even give updates and its absolute garbage. If you took money from people, you owe them an explanation, plain and simple. I see a LOT of devs blame physical and mental health, which is fine if you are transparent and honest with your backers, but too many of these guys cut and run and then fall back on "poor me" excuses. We all would be understanding, but not after HALF A YEAR of no response.
Joined the discord server to see wtf was happening with development and the dev has just been on hiatus for half of this year with absolutely no updates on itchio and then answered questions about when the game was coming out or storyline arcs with extremely vague answers. Was super excited for this to come out this year after waiting 4+ years now am extremely disappointed. I wish the people like me who spent money to see this game actually get developed get their money's worth eventually
I've had this game saved for a while and i'm seeing some negative comments I hope aren't true as I had high hopes for this game and would/will definitely buy it when it done
i'm not sure if it's any consolation to anyone who paid for the game, but i actually spoke to paradise, the person in charge of parival. they told me, "We are currently just coming out of hiatus. I didn't want to make any updates because of the lack of progress. I had to... finish school... had to switch writers again. So, we've had a lot of unfortunate circumstances within the last year. We are still trying to get the game finished. I am going to make an update when we have a lot more progress, though it does not seem like it will be for a while."
again, not sure if anyone really cares or is interested, but i'm personally glad to know they're still working on the game.
So, this sounds like "we have another business to do, besides OUR game". If they are sincere, why couldn't they just post the same words here? You know, like any normal dev would do, to stop spreading rumors. They don't even try to fix side story, what could I say else. Gamedev is a very hard thing, and not everyone is meant for it. I couldn't finish my game, so I don't try to post it or sell it.
I am very happy I didn't buy it last year, when I was wanting and hoping.
maybe i'm simply being too soft, but it is their first game. maybe it's a similar story to a game like omori? first time devs may not have a lot of experience, and may not know exactly what to do, but their final product could still be alright. look, i'm not gonna lie and say i'm unbiased here, i've been really excited for first degree pretty much since it was announced, and i have a lot of sympathy for first time devs. game dev is hard, for sure, and i've supported projects that never came to fruition in the past, but i'm still trying to hold out hope for this one. i'm not sure why the devs didn't say anything here, lack of transparency definitely doesn't bode well. the reasons they gave were having to finish school as well as switch writers, both of which are not easy to deal with. school keeps one busy, and hiring new writers that actually do a decent job is tough. i'd like to keep believing in parival, and especially first degree. again, though, maybe i'm going too soft on them?
It could be their first game. They could be unexperienced, they could be sick, or tired, or busy. BUT! - Is this really so hard - to come here and tell everyone "everything is okay, we are working and game will be done soon" or "we are tired from gamedev and we are not planning to finish"??? This is normal practice and such doing separates thoughtful people from indifferent ones. Because of this I don't want to wait their game or buy existing side story. For me, will be better to spent money on something not abandoned.
i,,, suppose it would be easier just to come on and inform everyone themselves, yes. i'm not sure why that hasn't happened. i understand fully how this could turn someone off from a project. perhaps i'm too optimistic, but i'd like to keep believing in them.
I wouldn't try to persuade you or anyone else, this is only my decision. It was the game I liked, the game I wanted very much, and now I am disappointed. So, it is only my feeling)
I feel like the game should be free to download when it's officially finished due that so many people donating and how long it took the game to finally finish not being finished so I feel like the game to be free and for all donators get something in return.
I will be blunt, you are probably some of the worst queer indie game developers out there(despite your game being amazing). It has been almost a FULL year since you last released an official update, people payed around 8200$ to support your game and this is how you treat them. If unfortunately real life probelms are overwhelming you(I really hope not) jusy say that the project is cancelled and try refunding your supporters
I checked all contacts and some of them is gone, some - forgotten. Should say, I am glad I had doubts early and didn't buy this game, because it looks like dev decided not to finish the main game))) It is sad, the game is promising((((
The issue isn't the game being pushed back, it's the complete lack of communication. If someone has given you money for a product you have promised them, then the appropriate thing to do when faced with a setback is to let your customer know of said setback. It doesn't have to be an extensive, detailed thing. Even just a "Hey guys, due to COVID we are facing medical/personal/unforeseen issues, so the project is on hiatus until further notice." That's it, just a sentence. Maybe a follow-up when you have a more concrete idea of your timeline.
Just basic, simple communication. It is perfectly reasonable for someone who has paid money to be annoyed or upset when they get NO communication about the thing they paid for.
I understand that they've been having difficulties, and I would by no means expect them to prioritize a game of all things, but if you're going to take on the responsibility of accepting peoples' money, you need to also take the responsibility of communicating with them.
I mean, no, they haven't communicated anything to their Kickstarter backers, either, and the few people who have been able to catch them on Discord have received vague responses or silence. The fact that they were on Discord means they are able to release a short update, but are actively choosing not to and "avoiding the issue," which is not how you deal with difficult things.
It's one thing to be positive and forgiving, but you need to hold people accountable sometimes as well, especially if they've been given $8,000 and can't even be bothered to announce a hiatus.
I played the demo and was immediately hooked. Not only is the premise very interesting, but the art style is wonderful, and I am impressed that there is voice acting included. I also like the stress of having to decide what to do in order to not be suspected; it's unique and so is the phone feature. Overall, it seems to be a high quality game, based off what little we have been given. I just had to buy the side game after finishing the demo, and was a little disappointed there was no voice acting in that one (there were moans, though!). I guess the demo just got my standards up too high LOL. I liked it nonetheless, and the twins are definitely my favorite.
A few of these comments are pretty negative, and I think they are underestimating how much effort and time it takes to create a game like this. I'd rather have a perfected game that takes a while than a rushed one full of errors. However, I will say that it is a little rude to not have an update and be radio silent for months at a time. As far I can see, the last time people got an update was last year in August. I think people would take to the waiting game more kindly if you gave updates more frequently.
Of course, life happens, and we are in a pandemic. But I hope that we get news of what's going on with the game soon. I am very much looking forward to it and will anxiously await a full version, no matter how long it takes!
Dear, dear.. Many people have been waiting during this time, I hope this is not going to be pushed back another year. Without any updates, people who have invested in funding are losing hope in this game. the potential idea of this game is so wonderful and we all hope that the full release will see the light sooner or later. perfecting the game will take a long time its understandable, but its better to release then continue updating the imperfections that come to your attention. something is is better then nothing right? As someone who had bought the side game, I really want to best for your team and hope that this game can be released so it can strive .
The idea behind this is interesting, but I find how... manipulable the MC is really, really irritating. There are also some kind of cringe-y moments from a consent perspective, which might be a weird thing to have qualms with when the MC is a serial killer.... but still.
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As a backer, all I want to say is this:
Fuck you, Parival and fuck you shitty Discord channel
about to be 2023 im so sorry to the people who put so much money into this game. thank you to the ones who warned me.
Just posting this update for those without a Discord: today, the devs said in the server for this game that “An associate of mine is working on the production at the moment and will make an update later this year”. Vague, yes, but it’s something…
when i emailed them a year ago, they said something similar. i just hope it's closer to the truth this time. when i saw the discord update i got very cautiously hopeful again.
Honestly sounds like an excuse. I was wondering why they were active in the discord but not responding to people on this site. Priorities are messed up
I'm so sad this got abandoned I really really enjoyed the demo...why must such skilled developers scam instead of just finishing their games? They clearly have the talent, I don't get it.
I posted a comment here a year ago basically saying "don't get your hopes up for this one, the devs have a bad reputation" and unfortunately it looks like I was right. It's a shame for everyone who trusted you guys and spent money on this scam.
Y'all, best thing you can do right now is to remember the name "Parival" and avoid it like the plague next time they create a new project to steal money from unsuspecting people.
tbh i feel like their the same dev from all men are pigs idk..
Such a shame.... I feel so bad for the people that spent money, time and wait on this project. I hope one day, it will be recovered for y'all.
Anyone who is just introduced to this work, beware. Because this project very much likely left behind, and is going to stay here forgotten forever.
Let's just face it: the game is abandoned. They took the money and ran.
It's the middle of April 2022 and they still have the "RELEASING IN 2021" up. There are no updates literally anywhere, and they were silent for two years already.
I get it that they might've had some problems in real life, but the only excuse they have for POSTING LITERALLY NOTHING for two years is being dead. People pledged their money for this project, they were supporting the developers for years, and they don't even get an explanation on why the game they've been waiting for is not getting updates anymore.
The devs should be ashamed of themselves. They not only ran with the money, but betrayed the trust of people who loved and supported their project.
Go screw yourselves, Parival.
Let's be honest - that's not the first project that had problems with development, but it's the first time I had seen such negativity in the comments long before that. Talking about accountability, money, respect, high on self-righteousness - I don't think that helped either.
I'll have to disagree, people only ever raised concerns (and valid ones considering this will end up being a paid product one day) when the Devs started to delay updates and make basically no progress. Even now some people are trying to defend the Devs absence, which I'm very baffled by. Since all it would have taken to avoid this mess, is for them to log in, just say whether the project is discontinued or not and refund people if it is. There's no shame in discontinuing a game, but there is in not being responsible enough to let everyone know and return the money people have invested, in hopes of ever seeing the finished game.
Honestly, this is the first time I've seen such patience and kindness from fans in game development on something that is trying to basically sell itself for 4+ years and has kept making empty promises to its own customers. That's my own take, the very least.
i remember making a comment here almost a year ago defending the devs of this game, when i was much more hopeful about its release, but i'm not so hopeful anymore. i at least hope that if the game is truly abandoned, you'll tell us that much, and refund the backers who paid you money.
I've been looking for updates on this game for years and it is very disappointing to see that this game looks like it has died... I was so hyped and excited for this game.
People have lives, we have no idea what they're going through
and people paid money for this. the least they can do is update their fanbase / customers.
This game looks good... but there hasn't been any news since 2020 I guess :(
Sigh...another disappointment.
They might be dealing with something right now and all you care about is their game?
We live in 2022. It would take them a few minutes to write a little update and say "sorry yall stuff happened."
The devs already had a bad reputation when this project was released, though most people were unaware and chose to trust them.
Stop playing dumb. Stop defending con artists, AnonymousLucario.
"RELEASING IN 2021"
Currently in the year 2022. This game went down the same way all men are pigs did..sad. I do hope nothing happened to them.
Been waiting since day one of the announcement for this game...I know at some point Ya'll had some health stuff going on or something & covid hit everyone pretty hard, but an update would be very nice even just an update stating that the game is delayed indefinitely. You know so us fans aren't sitting on the edge of our seats wondering & hoping, waiting for an inevitable nothing. This game has so much potential it'd be a damn shame for it to go to waste. :)
Been a year, uhm. Is this still going?
Yet another promise-breaking, idiotic, silent Dev. Why are we funding this?
I gave them so much money lmao
I get it’s been two years; but I’ve seen smaller projects take 4+ years to launch. Cut them a little slack, it is their first game and they do have a life outside of developing one as well.. :]
Yes thats true, but atleast give us some updates on what is going on with the game, are they done with the whole script? CGs? Or any progress with the game some game developers gives a monthly update on what is happening regarding with the project. It's been 2 years since the last time they gave an update(and it's just for a side game) The users have the right to know since some of them already donated for the funding of the project. Some players think that this project is being cancelled since the developers are too quiet.
You do make a good point.. with people funding their project. But it is evident they have gone quiet -- you'd think people would stop funding. As for updates,, it would be nice to have a new update; but we can't know for sure if they have ongoing personal problems unless they tell us. It'd be nice to know, but we still can't blame them for not having the game yet.. and maybe they can't update yet: no one knows if they can or can't :) I do see your view on it, however. Unlike you, I haven't been waiting two years for an update.. I glanced at it in 2020 but didn't really feel motivated to download the demo ahah.
yeah i know the feeling. I always check the status of a game before downloading. If it's on development status and their last update was 2 yrs ago, i already think that they already dropped this project. And No i didnt wait for 2 yrs for this game. Lol i just saw this game and i thought it is interesting but then i saw their last update was from 2 yrs ago and it's still on development status, soooo i didnt download it. I really dont wanna play the game on demo with such a massive cliffhanger at the end. Lol.
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It's their responsibility to update when they already did a crowdfunding but delay the release day, that the least the could do, yet they didn't give their fan any update.
This game looks soooo good.
I really hope you will be working on it again and it's not actually dead. It would be nice if you could just give us a little heads up. Just a little 'sorry I wasn't feeling well' or something would put a lot of minds at ease I think. You have always been very good with keeping everyone updated and this just feels weird. Hope you are ok and know a lot of people are still supporting you.
Sooo... it's been a HOT minute since the last update. Life happens, completely understandable. I wouldn't expect the devs to prioritize this game over their mental/physical health. What I'm saying isn't new here, but I really wish that at the very least, they would be more transparent about such issues. A simple "hey guys, really sorry about the lack of updates, but life stuff is going on and we are taking an indefinite hiatus" would suffice, especially when they have been financially backed thousands of dollars. I joined the Discord and the most recent update I saw was in October of this year, in which the dev basically said what I put in quotes above. While saying it on Discord is better than not at all, I think that they should definitely be saying that where backers and the general public who have been waiting for this for a long time to see. Not everyone has Discord or even knows there's a server for the game.
I take no issue with the game's development taking longer than expected. Hell, Omori took SIX YEARS, and it turned out absolutely brilliant. I do take issue with the devs not communicating this, which ironically enough, the creator of Omori was guilty of as well. Alongside that is the fact that Omori was Omocat's first game, and First Degree is also Parival's first game. Perhaps I'm being too optimistic here, but maybe it's a similar situation going on in which the development process for First Degree is going to take a very long time, but the final result is amazing. I left an extremely positive review of the demo 9 months ago, so I definitely have faith in Parival to keep that quality up for the rest of the game.
I wish them luck and success in their future endeavors and progress on this game, but do wish they would be more upfront about the whole process.
Edit: After rereading some comments, I noticed that some were angry about a side game being finished when the main isn't. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the devs made a side game just for the lulz. It could have been to bring some more money in because the main game was costing more than expected. Again, this is their FIRST GAME. They may have underestimated the time, effort, and money it takes to do something like this.
Hey :), do you know whether they have been updating something on discord the last 6 months?
Hi! They posted another update just today, actually: “An associate of mine is working on the production at the moment and will make an update later this year.”
Incredibly vague and frustrating. Given the devs’ past history of promising a specific timeframe and then not delivering, I wouldn’t trust this statement. But we’ll see.
ah thanks for the info! but yeah i agree, it's just such a pity, bc this game had so much potential and quality and i feel like with the game they could have established themselves as a game dev team on itch.io like lunaris or wanderlust etc. but now so many ppl just lost their trust (for very understandable reasons). i haven't invested any money so for me it's more like just disappointment but i can understand how and why others who even backed them up, are angry and frustrated. I too think even if they didn't have the time or nerve or something like that, to write an update here, the very least they could have done is to just update this site and just write: Indefinite Hiatus. Because then we know and people who find the game right now will also know to not play the demo or at least to not get their hopes up.
I refuse to support these developers anymore, and glad I didnt support this. I hate to say it but devs are gonna have a harder and harder time getting their games backed if they have no history of successful releases because so many projects take money and dont deliver. Between this, AMAP, and a few others, these guys just refuse to even give updates and its absolute garbage. If you took money from people, you owe them an explanation, plain and simple. I see a LOT of devs blame physical and mental health, which is fine if you are transparent and honest with your backers, but too many of these guys cut and run and then fall back on "poor me" excuses. We all would be understanding, but not after HALF A YEAR of no response.
Joined the discord server to see wtf was happening with development and the dev has just been on hiatus for half of this year with absolutely no updates on itchio and then answered questions about when the game was coming out or storyline arcs with extremely vague answers. Was super excited for this to come out this year after waiting 4+ years now am extremely disappointed. I wish the people like me who spent money to see this game actually get developed get their money's worth eventually
yikes.
Well, I think we can safely assume that the game was abandoned(ONE year without news). I hope you will refund your backers
I feel like the game should be for androids and iOS players
Android plsss
I really wish y'all'd give an update, even if it's just "hey, so, shit's gone kind of sideways, we need to take a hiatus, we'll be back in X time."
I've had this game saved for a while and i'm seeing some negative comments I hope aren't true as I had high hopes for this game and would/will definitely buy it when it done
i'm not sure if it's any consolation to anyone who paid for the game, but i actually spoke to paradise, the person in charge of parival. they told me, "We are currently just coming out of hiatus. I didn't want to make any updates because of the lack of progress. I had to... finish school... had to switch writers again. So, we've had a lot of unfortunate circumstances within the last year. We are still trying to get the game finished. I am going to make an update when we have a lot more progress, though it does not seem like it will be for a while."
again, not sure if anyone really cares or is interested, but i'm personally glad to know they're still working on the game.
So, this sounds like "we have another business to do, besides OUR game". If they are sincere, why couldn't they just post the same words here? You know, like any normal dev would do, to stop spreading rumors. They don't even try to fix side story, what could I say else. Gamedev is a very hard thing, and not everyone is meant for it. I couldn't finish my game, so I don't try to post it or sell it.
I am very happy I didn't buy it last year, when I was wanting and hoping.
maybe i'm simply being too soft, but it is their first game. maybe it's a similar story to a game like omori? first time devs may not have a lot of experience, and may not know exactly what to do, but their final product could still be alright. look, i'm not gonna lie and say i'm unbiased here, i've been really excited for first degree pretty much since it was announced, and i have a lot of sympathy for first time devs. game dev is hard, for sure, and i've supported projects that never came to fruition in the past, but i'm still trying to hold out hope for this one. i'm not sure why the devs didn't say anything here, lack of transparency definitely doesn't bode well. the reasons they gave were having to finish school as well as switch writers, both of which are not easy to deal with. school keeps one busy, and hiring new writers that actually do a decent job is tough. i'd like to keep believing in parival, and especially first degree. again, though, maybe i'm going too soft on them?
It could be their first game. They could be unexperienced, they could be sick, or tired, or busy. BUT! - Is this really so hard - to come here and tell everyone "everything is okay, we are working and game will be done soon" or "we are tired from gamedev and we are not planning to finish"??? This is normal practice and such doing separates thoughtful people from indifferent ones. Because of this I don't want to wait their game or buy existing side story. For me, will be better to spent money on something not abandoned.
i,,, suppose it would be easier just to come on and inform everyone themselves, yes. i'm not sure why that hasn't happened. i understand fully how this could turn someone off from a project. perhaps i'm too optimistic, but i'd like to keep believing in them.
I wouldn't try to persuade you or anyone else, this is only my decision. It was the game I liked, the game I wanted very much, and now I am disappointed. So, it is only my feeling)
I feel like the game should be free to download when it's officially finished due that so many people donating and how long it took the game to finally finish not being finished so I feel like the game to be free and for all donators get something in return.
I will be blunt, you are probably some of the worst queer indie game developers out there(despite your game being amazing). It has been almost a FULL year since you last released an official update, people payed around 8200$ to support your game and this is how you treat them. If unfortunately real life probelms are overwhelming you(I really hope not) jusy say that the project is cancelled and try refunding your supporters
I checked all contacts and some of them is gone, some - forgotten. Should say, I am glad I had doubts early and didn't buy this game, because it looks like dev decided not to finish the main game))) It is sad, the game is promising((((
Is it to late to pledge to the game cuz im interested in the game
many characters & mysteries (nice visual novel)
The demo looks so great!! Art, characters, everything is amazing. Can't wait for the full game!
I loooooveee itt! I can't wait for the whole game to be out :)) <3
The issue isn't the game being pushed back, it's the complete lack of communication. If someone has given you money for a product you have promised them, then the appropriate thing to do when faced with a setback is to let your customer know of said setback.
It doesn't have to be an extensive, detailed thing. Even just a "Hey guys, due to COVID we are facing medical/personal/unforeseen issues, so the project is on hiatus until further notice." That's it, just a sentence. Maybe a follow-up when you have a more concrete idea of your timeline.
Just basic, simple communication. It is perfectly reasonable for someone who has paid money to be annoyed or upset when they get NO communication about the thing they paid for.
I understand that they've been having difficulties, and I would by no means expect them to prioritize a game of all things, but if you're going to take on the responsibility of accepting peoples' money, you need to also take the responsibility of communicating with them.
I mean, no, they haven't communicated anything to their Kickstarter backers, either, and the few people who have been able to catch them on Discord have received vague responses or silence. The fact that they were on Discord means they are able to release a short update, but are actively choosing not to and "avoiding the issue," which is not how you deal with difficult things.
It's one thing to be positive and forgiving, but you need to hold people accountable sometimes as well, especially if they've been given $8,000 and can't even be bothered to announce a hiatus.
A lot of people have invested their money in the game, and you will not even deign to do updates?Shitty game.
I played the demo and was immediately hooked. Not only is the premise very interesting, but the art style is wonderful, and I am impressed that there is voice acting included. I also like the stress of having to decide what to do in order to not be suspected; it's unique and so is the phone feature. Overall, it seems to be a high quality game, based off what little we have been given. I just had to buy the side game after finishing the demo, and was a little disappointed there was no voice acting in that one (there were moans, though!). I guess the demo just got my standards up too high LOL. I liked it nonetheless, and the twins are definitely my favorite.
A few of these comments are pretty negative, and I think they are underestimating how much effort and time it takes to create a game like this. I'd rather have a perfected game that takes a while than a rushed one full of errors. However, I will say that it is a little rude to not have an update and be radio silent for months at a time. As far I can see, the last time people got an update was last year in August. I think people would take to the waiting game more kindly if you gave updates more frequently.
Of course, life happens, and we are in a pandemic. But I hope that we get news of what's going on with the game soon. I am very much looking forward to it and will anxiously await a full version, no matter how long it takes!
Dear, dear.. Many people have been waiting during this time, I hope this is not going to be pushed back another year. Without any updates, people who have invested in funding are losing hope in this game. the potential idea of this game is so wonderful and we all hope that the full release will see the light sooner or later. perfecting the game will take a long time its understandable, but its better to release then continue updating the imperfections that come to your attention. something is is better then nothing right? As someone who had bought the side game, I really want to best for your team and hope that this game can be released so it can strive .
The idea behind this is interesting, but I find how... manipulable the MC is really, really irritating. There are also some kind of cringe-y moments from a consent perspective, which might be a weird thing to have qualms with when the MC is a serial killer.... but still.