For anyone who might still be popping in here for updates; it seems as if Parival LLC has been dissolved.
I am honestly quite upset, since people have supported this games development through Kickstarter and have donated $8,184 (main funding goal was $2,000) and I am unsure if anyone has ever received their Kickstarter rewards.
Plus, the fact that we have given money in support of the side game, which was supposedly going towards the main game's development.
This is what I hate about indie VN developers. Stop trying to start a gaming business when you're still in the middle of university or have work commitment where you'll be treating indie game dev as nothing more than a side project. The fact that Parival listed themselves as a legit small business and even accepted funding for their game's development, is no excuse to shirk responsibilities and then cry about being busy with university and work.
Why start a company then? I see this happen with so many new indie VN popping up and it's fine if it's a free game and they're not a registered business, but the moment you start demanding funds and register yourself as a business, you are then creating and selling a product.
Building and maintaining a business is no small feat and should not be taken lightly. I seriously wish more people can understand this, before diving in and starting an LLC and selling products. Especially when money has been given to Parival and since it's done through Kickstarter, everyone has virtually signed an agreement understanding that projects might not meet the goal and refund is impossible if that were the case. (I am unsure how it works if the goal has been met but the company decides to run off with the money). This creates a liability issue and of course, I truly wish in cases such as these legal matters can be brought in to resolve the issue and people can get refunded.
It's devastating to see a project drop dead and I had such high hopes for this game, since there's not that many dark BL games out there that are Western and I loved how we got a protagonist that is morally grey. The voice actors have done a fantastic job in bringing these characters to life and the gameplay mechanics and story premise was truly refreshing to see.
Any "discord" news I am taking with a grain of salt, since Parival should have been communicating openly on public profiles such as this page for updates/news. I don't understand why they'd make update/news on a private server such as discord. Especially if ownership has been given to someone new and development is being resumed. Why not share that publicly on here? It's been years now, so I am assuming that development has ceased long ago and that the so-called "discord" news is false.
It's because of these scammers that I completely avoid any "support for ongoing / beta / early access"; HATE them so much for scamming people who love and supported them, such betrayal of trust! -Hereby deleting this from my ongoing game list, RIP-
Thank you for the update on this. It is so gross to me that this studio accepted money for this project and then just decided they couldn't be bothered to finish it. It's completely disrespectful to all the people who had faith in this project and spent money to see it created. running off with 8K+ dollars is absolutely insane to me. If anyone who donated to the kickstarter reads this, did you ever get the rewards you were promised?
Not quite sure which trail to ensue given the Development log capped at Aug 04, 2020, nor am I confident in guessing whether or not the game is still...active?
Where did the development vacate to? Or is it on break? I paid for and played through the Side Game, yet I am confused as to what/where the main game went...development or otherwise.
i too am very unsure, since the creator has deleted their patreon, which might indicate ending any and all development. HOWEVER, arguably development ended in 2021, rather than 2020 as you stated, due to the summer game being released. it is a shame bout the lack of release anyway.
okay so first things first, where can we find these new updates, in what discord? I apologize I’ve never seen them b4! Two, who is taking over this game? If anyone is- I’ve seen buzz about this being took over, and people getting discord updates- and I’ve never personally seen or heard of them till now- I also see some fighting in the comments, I understand some people wanna defend the creator due to having a hard time, I can agree on that. But I also agree on why people are pissed- they spent a lot of money on this game, and was so excited about it, only to get their hopes dashed. The only thing saving them, is a few comments from you guys, so while I appreciate you all sticking up for them, I know no one asked for my opinion lolol but still, let people feel there hurt, because it’s completely okay! If they backed the game, and lost money on it, they are allowed to be hurt and upset for having something they love ruined for them-
It’s okay, everyone. Either we are getting this game or not, I just wish communication from them is better- and I hope they get better, but what I hope for as well, is that they gave the game to someone else. At this point, someone else should take it. They haven’t done anything for this game in almost 4 years (that being main game)
What I came to say here, is where is the proof of us getting a chance to have it again, it’s doubtful so please don’t get your hopes up.
I don’t wanna be harsh here, or rude or sound like I don’t care because I’m sure we all do, but devs
Give this game to someone else. It’s okay to walk away from something that is stressing you, a post about this and who it’s going to would be nice, and in the future
Please be more transparent, I understand it’s hard, and we get that, but tell people what’s going on, let us know what we put our money into.
TLDR- Where’s the discord, where’s the proof of this game being done, who’s it going to, be transparent devs, and please give this game to someone else.
i've heard that the new expected release date is in 2024. i suppose we'll wait and see if they deliver this time. i've been halfway following the development of this game for three or so years now. i haven't really got any emotional or financial investment, since i didn't pay for it... but i still thought it would be cool. the demo impressed me at the time. i miss this game. i hope something comes of it.
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damn, i was looking for new games to buy, and this one seemed so freaking cool...
Thank you Heycid for the update... this is too bad for the game and us/unforgivable... i hope people got their money back...
I REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO BUY THIS GAME OFF THIS PERSON AND MAKE IT UNBELIVABELY AMAZING! Out of anger and frustration of what we didn't get. :(
Sameeeeee
WHEN WILL THE GAME RELEASED ????? I'M BARKING FOR IT
Neverr, they canceled it😭
For anyone who might still be popping in here for updates; it seems as if Parival LLC has been dissolved.
I am honestly quite upset, since people have supported this games development through Kickstarter and have donated $8,184 (main funding goal was $2,000) and I am unsure if anyone has ever received their Kickstarter rewards.
Plus, the fact that we have given money in support of the side game, which was supposedly going towards the main game's development.
This is what I hate about indie VN developers. Stop trying to start a gaming business when you're still in the middle of university or have work commitment where you'll be treating indie game dev as nothing more than a side project. The fact that Parival listed themselves as a legit small business and even accepted funding for their game's development, is no excuse to shirk responsibilities and then cry about being busy with university and work.
Why start a company then? I see this happen with so many new indie VN popping up and it's fine if it's a free game and they're not a registered business, but the moment you start demanding funds and register yourself as a business, you are then creating and selling a product.
Building and maintaining a business is no small feat and should not be taken lightly. I seriously wish more people can understand this, before diving in and starting an LLC and selling products. Especially when money has been given to Parival and since it's done through Kickstarter, everyone has virtually signed an agreement understanding that projects might not meet the goal and refund is impossible if that were the case. (I am unsure how it works if the goal has been met but the company decides to run off with the money). This creates a liability issue and of course, I truly wish in cases such as these legal matters can be brought in to resolve the issue and people can get refunded.
It's devastating to see a project drop dead and I had such high hopes for this game, since there's not that many dark BL games out there that are Western and I loved how we got a protagonist that is morally grey. The voice actors have done a fantastic job in bringing these characters to life and the gameplay mechanics and story premise was truly refreshing to see.
Any "discord" news I am taking with a grain of salt, since Parival should have been communicating openly on public profiles such as this page for updates/news. I don't understand why they'd make update/news on a private server such as discord. Especially if ownership has been given to someone new and development is being resumed. Why not share that publicly on here? It's been years now, so I am assuming that development has ceased long ago and that the so-called "discord" news is false.
It's because of these scammers that I completely avoid any "support for ongoing / beta / early access"; HATE them so much for scamming people who love and supported them, such betrayal of trust! -Hereby deleting this from my ongoing game list, RIP-
Thank you for the update on this. It is so gross to me that this studio accepted money for this project and then just decided they couldn't be bothered to finish it. It's completely disrespectful to all the people who had faith in this project and spent money to see it created. running off with 8K+ dollars is absolutely insane to me. If anyone who donated to the kickstarter reads this, did you ever get the rewards you were promised?
I REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO BUY THIS GAME OFF THIS PERSON AND MAKE IT UNBELIVABELY AMAZING! Out of anger and frustration of what we didn't get. :(
Thank you for your comment. I didnt know how bad the situation is (┳◇┳)
Are there any updates as to the development of the game?
SO fking sad this game and everything surrounding it just...died. Was genuinely looking forward to it.
I really fell in love with the characters and the entire concept 😅
Not quite sure which trail to ensue given the Development log capped at Aug 04, 2020, nor am I confident in guessing whether or not the game is still...active?
Where did the development vacate to? Or is it on break? I paid for and played through the Side Game, yet I am confused as to what/where the main game went...development or otherwise.
i too am very unsure, since the creator has deleted their patreon, which might indicate ending any and all development. HOWEVER, arguably development ended in 2021, rather than 2020 as you stated, due to the summer game being released. it is a shame bout the lack of release anyway.
will the full release be free. cause i love this game sm right neow
I really enjoyed this demo. I hope to see it become a full release some day.
I remember playing this years ago! I hope to see that one day this game will make a huge comeback. :)
still waiting for the new update...🥲
dislike of pda is so real
Can I date both twins? That would be hot
okay so first things first, where can we find these new updates, in what discord? I apologize I’ve never seen them b4! Two, who is taking over this game? If anyone is- I’ve seen buzz about this being took over, and people getting discord updates- and I’ve never personally seen or heard of them till now- I also see some fighting in the comments, I understand some people wanna defend the creator due to having a hard time, I can agree on that. But I also agree on why people are pissed- they spent a lot of money on this game, and was so excited about it, only to get their hopes dashed. The only thing saving them, is a few comments from you guys, so while I appreciate you all sticking up for them, I know no one asked for my opinion lolol but still, let people feel there hurt, because it’s completely okay! If they backed the game, and lost money on it, they are allowed to be hurt and upset for having something they love ruined for them-
It’s okay, everyone. Either we are getting this game or not, I just wish communication from them is better- and I hope they get better, but what I hope for as well, is that they gave the game to someone else. At this point, someone else should take it. They haven’t done anything for this game in almost 4 years (that being main game)
What I came to say here, is where is the proof of us getting a chance to have it again, it’s doubtful so please don’t get your hopes up.
I don’t wanna be harsh here, or rude or sound like I don’t care because I’m sure we all do, but devs
Give this game to someone else. It’s okay to walk away from something that is stressing you, a post about this and who it’s going to would be nice, and in the future
Please be more transparent, I understand it’s hard, and we get that, but tell people what’s going on, let us know what we put our money into.
TLDR- Where’s the discord, where’s the proof of this game being done, who’s it going to, be transparent devs, and please give this game to someone else.
i've heard that the new expected release date is in 2024. i suppose we'll wait and see if they deliver this time. i've been halfway following the development of this game for three or so years now. i haven't really got any emotional or financial investment, since i didn't pay for it... but i still thought it would be cool. the demo impressed me at the time. i miss this game. i hope something comes of it.
Thank you for the update! I really want to see this game actually finish since concept is just so good
Ohhh so the full game isn't out yet :O Damn I thought I was tripping because all I could find was the demo no matter where I looked lmao
When is this game finished?